Legislature(2023 - 2024)BARNES 124

03/02/2023 10:15 AM House ENERGY

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10:15:21 AM Start
10:16:35 AM HB74
10:42:10 AM Presentation: Green Hydrogen and Alaskan Geothermal
11:16:15 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 74 GEOTHERMAL RESOURCES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ Presentation: Green Hydrogen and Alaskan TELECONFERENCED
Geothermal by Paul Fuhs, CEO, Alaska Hydrogen
Industries
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                  HB  74-GEOTHERMAL RESOURCES                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:16:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAUSCHER announced  that the first order  of business would                                                               
be HOUSE BILL  NO. 74, "An Act relating  to geothermal resources;                                                               
relating  to  the  definition   of  'geothermal  resources';  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:17:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
PAUL CRAIG, President, GeoAlaska,  LLC, stated that GeoAlaska has                                                               
two Geothermal  exploration permits,  on Mt. Spurr  and Augustine                                                               
Island.  He said that GeoAlaska  and Ignis Energy have worked out                                                               
an  agreement   to  partner  together   in  efforts   to  develop                                                               
geothermal energy  at those sites.   GeoAlaska fully  supports HB
74  and views  it  as  a necessary  step  in  the development  of                                                               
geothermal resources, as  the current length of  time for permits                                                               
under current  statute is too  short to discover  the feasibility                                                               
of a geothermal plant in a given  area.  He said that the current                                                               
instability of  royalty structures  also makes it  more difficult                                                               
to  secure  investors.   He  stated  that the  oldest  geothermal                                                               
project in the  world was created in 1904 in  Tuscany, Italy, and                                                               
it is still producing geothermal energy today.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:26:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
GUY  OLIVER,  PhD,  Geoscience   and  Exploration  Leader,  Ignis                                                               
Energy,  stated that  Ignis  Energy supports  HB  74 as  written.                                                               
Ignis  Energy  is  a worldwide  leader  in  connecting  different                                                               
sources of energy  with geothermal sources of energy  in order to                                                               
meet energy  demand.  He said  that Ignis has been  doing work in                                                               
the state of Alaska  for over 20 years.  Its aim  in Alaska is to                                                               
greatly  increase  the  development of  Alaska's  "underutilized"                                                               
geothermal resource  potential.  He  said that the extra  time to                                                               
explore  provided  in  HB  74  is  a  vital  step  in  increasing                                                               
geothermal   power,  especially   because  of   Alaska's  weather                                                               
patterns  limiting the  amount of  work that  can be  done during                                                               
certain parts of the year.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:33:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX asked  when the  projects at  Mt. Spurr  and                                                               
Augustine Island could be expected to start producing energy.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DR. OLIVER answered  that if according to  plan, geophysical data                                                               
is expected  this year, a test  well is expected by  summer 2024,                                                               
and the  total time  it is  expected to  take to  start producing                                                               
energy is 5 or 6 years from now.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:36:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
GEOFF SIMPSON, Landman,  Cyrq Energy, stated that  Cyrg Energy is                                                               
a  subsidiary of  Macquarie Infrastructure  and Real  Assets, the                                                               
largest  infrastructure  company  in  the world.    Cyrg  has  10                                                               
ongoing geothermal  projects around the world,  including Alaska,                                                               
and fully supports HB 74.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:38:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAUSCHER opened public testimony on HB 74.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:39:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
PAUL FUHS, CEO, Alaska Hydrogen  Industries, testified in support                                                               
of HB 74.  He stated  that geothermal energy is sustainable long-                                                               
term,  and  the  provisions  in the  bill  changing  the  royalty                                                               
structure would create stability for geothermal energy.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:40:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   RAUSCHER  closed   public  testimony   on  HB   74  after                                                               
ascertaining nobody else wished to testify.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[HB 74 was held over.]                                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
House Energy Committee 3.2.2023 pdf-compressed.pdf HENE 3/2/2023 10:15:00 AM
Alaska Green Hydrogen Geothermal